The Holy Church of the Electric Chair
5:00 AM 10/5/06 ·
Missed the beginning of the report but I'm assuming it had to do with the premature death of children considering the part I heard. It said that Catholics belive that when babies die their souls goto Limbo. It is additionally believed that all of the souls of the people that died prior to the birth of Jesus are there as well.
I've asked on this before, the whole where did people go before salvation by the Messiah was an option, but I'd always been reassured that they had all been saved retroactively. So which version is true? Has anybody heard about this Limbo thing before?
Do you suppose Jesus was a cat person or a dog person?
Why do you feel this way?
7:48 PM 8/29/06 ·
One of the things I like about most of my religious posts, other than the truly wonky nature of the things I go on about, is the responses. They range from the people that want to discuss whatever it is I put forth, those that outright condemn me for it, a few that pray that I will one day be shown the way from on High, and the seemingly holy war that erupts among the commenters when they discover they don't quite see things eye to eye. More than that, as I learned via my previous main account, even though the initial outpouring of comments may go on from days to weeks...sometimes I will be pleasntly surprised by someone who decides to get their 2¢ in as far as a year after the fact.
By the by, to those that hope God will show me the way someday...did you ever stop to consider maybe that already happened? Not saying it did, suspect I'd know it less than anybody else, but it is an interesting thought.
Moving right along...
...preamble seems to be the genetic curse of my family line.
I seem to go on about Jesus quite a bit which mainly stems from the fact I find him to be an endlessly interesting guy. Moreso the fact that nobody seems to get his name right, I only actually use Jesus
because otherwise no one would know who I was talking about. From numerous posts and discussions, like I went on about in that first paragraph, the consensus opinion from those as or more learned than I is that his name was Yeshua. The last major Jesus posting I did I actually learned the reason why most folks refer to him by the "J" name...
...in the King James Bible, named for a certain King James who started this particular mess, he decided that Jesus was to be called that so as his name wouldn't be confused with another man in there that is currently listed by the name they both shared.
I've often felt the fact that no one in the Bible has a last name was a miraculously ongoing typo.
Went through all of that just to lead up to one question.
Preamble...it's a curse on us all.
Traditionally children are named by their parents and I'm sure there was no exception when little Jesus came kicking and screaming into the world. Only problem is that he had 3 parents: Mary (Mom) & Jospeph (Stepdad) & the Big Guy (Dad)...
...do not covet thy neighbor's wife
my ass! I suspect this was where the phrase do as I say and not as I do
...but I digress.
Whatever that original name might've been...who do you suppose it was that named him?
...but I'm willing to risk it.
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On the way to Mom's to help her with some stuff around the house, before getting on the train, I was skimming the SF Weekly. Used to be a much more fun paper to read until they removed the personals section. Regardless of how bad a mood I was ever in...a quick skim of them would either get me giggly or scare the bejeebus outta me.
Either way, whatever had me down previously would be the furthest thing from my mind.
Still, the Savage Nation
is usally funny to read. There was this one guy complaining about something and he used an amusing visual image of the Pope and that got me to thinking.
The Christian faith at large, not all of and certainly not limited to it, has a rather big thing against homosexual marriage, gays in general, and obviously transgenders and transvestites. From the lowest of the low to the highest of the high these folks are generally viewed as bad and wrong and sinful and...you get the idea.
The funny thing if that regardless of the denomination or disparate branching of the faith, they largely take their heading from that guy in Rome that lives in the Vatican; the Pope. This is particularly interesting considering that most days, possible all as I can't picture the current or his predecessors in jeans, the Pope is wearing a dress.
Okay, technically I assume the outfit has a specific name other than something so feminine but really...it looks like a dress. It doesn't help that the current guy seems to have a perpetually lecherous expression on his face, regardless of mood, but we've got a guy in a dress making decisions on the wrongness of men that like dressing as women...
...partially. The stance is against homosexuals as a whole and not just the transvestites but still.
Something wonky this way comes.
Okay, that's my 2¢...go back to whatever you were doing.
- I don't see Jesus as my lord and savior. That last bit maybe but definitely not the first. This was a guy that balked at any special treatment that people tried to show him. He was a teacher...not royalty.
- When Jesus walked on the water, do you suppose his feet got wet? Were there ripples caused by each step?
- Jesus lived a fair stretch of time and was executed. Then he rose from the dead, spooked a few people, and disappeared. What exactly happened to him after that? Did he go onto Heaven or is he wandering the world to this day as a well preserved zombie?
- Why did they translate his name? Jesus isn't very Aramaic, the language spoken in his region & time. Scholars, I've checked, say his name was actually Yeshua. So, why is it everyone calls him other than his given name?
- It'd be a shame if he died a virgin. I mean, with all the guy had to put up with in life it'd've been nice to know he got a little on the side.
- Jesus was of the Hebrew faith and born Jewish. I've never quite gotten why those that follow his teachings aren't still Jewish...or at the very least Hebrew.
- I can picture Jesus in torn jeans, blue baseball cap worn backwards, standard shirt with the sleeves rolled up, seated on the front steps of some major library, totally engrossed in a book on Eastern philosophies with no difficutly whatsoever.
- Don't actually know if Jesus had any brothers or sisters. Don't know if he might not've had kids of his own. Don't even know if he has surviving blood relations to this day. However, wouldn't it be really cool if he did?
- I don't buy into the whole Jesus being God thing because not only would that mean he got his own mother pregnant with himself but it would kind of lend itself to God suffering from multiple personality disorder.
- Even though I put no stock in it, can't help but laugh at a notion from Red Dwarf: belive it was Rimmer who didn't believe in the reality of Jesus because any child who developed magical powers and not tried to join the circus was a ludicrous concept.
- There's been a lot of controversy, in relatively recent decades, about the ethnicity of Jesus given the region of the world he lived in and how he is most often perceived to appear. While I think the message is more important than the man....I highly doubt he was caucasian.
- I remember this little bit, I saw in a movie, how Jesus first came as a lamb but he shall return as a lion. This tends to give me a hybridized mental vision of him and Rambo.
- As messed up as the world is today, if Jesus actually did come back it wouldn't be long before he was put away into some federal lockup.
- I'd like to think he'd be just as disgusted with the production of "Jesus Christ Superstar" as I was.
- I hate the crucification....and I don't mean the event itself. Going into a church and seeing a representation of him hanging there bloodied and broken, in obvious agony; its barbaric! I get the whole died for our sins bit but that doesn't mean we should have to see it anytime we goto worship. I'd much rather see him represented doing what he did in life rather than the slow and painful way he was brought down.
- Given the types of folks Jesus hung out with before it occurs to me that the faithful might be in for a rude awakening. A guy that didn't choose to live in the lap of luxury before is unlikely to start now.
- Similar to the last one, Jesus came up in the Hebrew faith but was largely rejected by its religious leaders. I'd be very much surprised if the same thing didn't happen again should he return and interact with the leaders of the Christian faith.
- There are many who believe Jesus will return someday but how is he supposed to be recognized? It's not like there's a wholly accurate description of the guy or listing of identifying marks; can't exactly check his dental records. For all anyone knows he may've already come and gone.
- Reincarnation not being an exact science, wouldn't it be interesting if Jesus returned as a woman?
what do you think of this: http://www.lakewood.cc/site/PageServer
watch your volume. the site has built in audio.
i just watched a piece on nightline about it.
on one hand i think its great that its serving so many people and i also like that it's fairly homegrown.
but on the other, how much money went into this? why does god need such a gigantic....building? couldn't that money have gone somewhere it was needed more? all i'm seeing is a big theme park arena with a fake waterfall (and no cross anywhere?), chicks in too much makeup and expensive clothes, and a guy that doesn't talk about sin because he wants to avoid controversy. maybe that's why the church got so big though. not talking about controversial issues allows everyone to stay comfortable and never be challenged to grow.
i can't help but think "benny hinn!".
but like i said, god can use anything for good, and i'm sure there are many people benefiting greatly from the place. i'm just not sure about their "tactics", if you will. but i like my church simple and traditional and this is about as far from simple and traditional as you can possibly get.
there's my 2 cents.
Is it just me, or is Christianity an inherently selfish religion? Everyone talks about it being a gift from God that we should be overjoyed at. But it still sucks to be God. I mean, isn't it weird that we celebrate the torture of a Hebrew rabbi who lived 2000 year ago?
Christians are very weird when you stop to think about it.
Praise God! my sister just accepted christ! she is now saved and now my sister is christ as well as blood!!!